News – The Life Of A Rider https://thelifeofarider.com Sat, 20 Jun 2020 19:15:03 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.2.7 Caught on camera: Motorcycle stuck to front of minivan, throws sparks on 91 Freeway in Corona https://thelifeofarider.com/caught-on-camera-motorcycle-stuck-to-front-of-minivan-throws-sparks-on-91-freeway-in-corona https://thelifeofarider.com/caught-on-camera-motorcycle-stuck-to-front-of-minivan-throws-sparks-on-91-freeway-in-corona#respond Sat, 20 Jun 2020 19:15:03 +0000 https://thelifeofarider.com/?p=1367 CORONA, Calif. (KABC) — Video shows a silver minivan speeding down the eastbound 91 Freeway in Corona and throwing off sparks Friday night. When the eyewitness driver catches up to the minivan, he can’t believe what he sees. It’s a motorcycle stuck to the front of that silver minivan. There is no motorcycle rider in …

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CORONA, Calif. (KABC) — Video shows a silver minivan speeding down the eastbound 91 Freeway in Corona and throwing off sparks Friday night. When the eyewitness driver catches up to the minivan, he can’t believe what he sees.

It’s a motorcycle stuck to the front of that silver minivan.

There is no motorcycle rider in sight but the motorcycle being shoved along by the minivan is throwing a shower of sparks into traffic.

The eyewitness captures it all as that minivan then starts to exit the freeway at McKinley Street.

The eyewitness tells us he was so concerned, he exited at the first opportunity and circled back toward McKinley Street.

He found that motorcycle on the side of the road along with the front bumper of that minivan.

A few moments later, that eyewitness spots the minivan dumped just off the road, next to a tree near the Santa Ana riverbed.

There is no sign of the driver, who had apparently taken off.

ABC7 called the CHP Friday night to find out what happened to the motorcycle rider. We have yet to hear back.

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1 dead, 2 seriously injured after sedan crashes head-on into two motorcycles in Holiday Hills https://thelifeofarider.com/1-dead-2-seriously-injured-after-sedan-crashes-head-on-into-two-motorcycles-in-holiday-hills https://thelifeofarider.com/1-dead-2-seriously-injured-after-sedan-crashes-head-on-into-two-motorcycles-in-holiday-hills#respond Fri, 05 Jun 2020 13:16:53 +0000 https://thelifeofarider.com/?p=1332 The McHenry County Sheriff’s Office investigates a fatal motorcycle crash in the 2300 block of South River Road in Holiday Hills Wednesday evening. | Photo: Alex Vucha. A woman is dead and two others, including a child, were seriously injured after a car drove into the opposite lane of traffic and struck two motorcycles in …

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The McHenry County Sheriff’s Office investigates a fatal motorcycle crash in the 2300 block of South River Road in Holiday Hills Wednesday evening. | Photo: Alex Vucha.

A woman is dead and two others, including a child, were seriously injured after a car drove into the opposite lane of traffic and struck two motorcycles in Holiday Hills.

The McHenry County Sheriff’s Office and McHenry Township Fire District responded around 7:26 p.m. Wednesday to South River Road north of Sunset Drive in Holiday Hills for a report of a three-vehicle crash with injuries.

The crash involved a 2017 Acura TLX, a 2003 Harley-Davidson FLSTF Fat Boy motorcycle, and a 2005 Harley-Davidson Trike.

The McHenry County Sheriff’s Office said that the Acura had been traveling northbound on South River Road.

The Acura, driven by a 20-year-old McHenry woman, went into the southbound lane of traffic where it struck both motorcycles, causing the riders to be ejected from their vehicles.

The driver of the 2003 Harley-Davidson was a 65-year-old Lake in the Hills man. A 56-year-old McHenry woman was driving the 2005 Harley-Davidson and a 9-year-old girl from Mandeville, Louisiana was in the passenger.

A medical helicopter transported the 65-year-old McHenry man to Advocate Condell Medical Center in Libertyville where he remains in critical condition.

An ambulance transported the 56-year-old McHenry woman to Advocate Condell Medical Center where she was later pronounced dead.

The 9-year-old passenger was transported by ambulance to Northwestern Medicine Hospital in McHenry with serious injuries. The drivers of the motorcycles were not wearing helmets but the young girl was, the sheriff’s office said.

Authorities said the driver of the Acura did not sustain any injuries. Police closed the roadway for approximately six hours while an accident investigation took place.

The Illinois Department of Natural Resource Police, Island Lake Police Department and Nunda-Rural Fire Protection District assisted at the scene.

The investigation continues by the McHenry County Sheriff’s Office Major Crash Investigation Unit, Holiday Hills Police Department and the Lake County Coroner’s Office.

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Law Enforcement Motorcycle clubs might sound like an oxymoron but they’re very real! Here’s why they’re growing by the day https://thelifeofarider.com/law-enforcement-motorcycle-clubs-might-sound-like-an-oxymoron-but-theyre-very-real-heres-why-theyre-growing-by-the-day https://thelifeofarider.com/law-enforcement-motorcycle-clubs-might-sound-like-an-oxymoron-but-theyre-very-real-heres-why-theyre-growing-by-the-day#respond Sun, 31 May 2020 19:03:48 +0000 https://thelifeofarider.com/?p=1311 Law Enforcement Motorcycle Clubs, or LEMCs, sound like an oxymoron. But they are very much in existence, and growing by the day – motorcycle clubs that are run by the cops, for the cops, and of the cops. They call themselves traditional MCs, in that they have the same hierarchy and entry models that way …

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Law Enforcement Motorcycle Clubs, or LEMCs, sound like an oxymoron. But they are very much in existence, and growing by the day – motorcycle clubs that are run by the cops, for the cops, and of the cops. They call themselves traditional MCs, in that they have the same hierarchy and entry models that way other motorcycle clubs do, but most MCs, especially the outlaw MCs view LEMCs with distrust.

These are the people who work to suppress all illegal activities of outlaw MCs. LEMCs members may be still serving or retired, but the fact remains, they are cops at heart, with a love for motorcycles and riding on the open road, sworn to uphold the law.

They may like themselves just fine, but for the other MCs, LEMCs are more of a farce. Here are some amazing facts and figures about the LEMCs of America…

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Man shot and killed by police was rambling about Hells Angels and Warlocks Motorcycle Club https://thelifeofarider.com/man-shot-and-killed-by-police-was-rambling-about-hells-angels-and-warlocks-motorcycle-club https://thelifeofarider.com/man-shot-and-killed-by-police-was-rambling-about-hells-angels-and-warlocks-motorcycle-club#respond Sun, 31 May 2020 15:14:07 +0000 https://thelifeofarider.com/?p=1305 A Manlius man, fatally shot by troopers after New York State Police say he pointed a gun at them during a domestic disturbance Tuesday afternoon, has been identified. State police announced at a news conference Wednesday afternoon that Kenneth Bennett, 61, of 140 Wilson Drive, was shot and killed by troopers during the domestic incident …

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A Manlius man, fatally shot by troopers after New York State Police say he pointed a gun at them during a domestic disturbance Tuesday afternoon, has been identified.

State police announced at a news conference Wednesday afternoon that Kenneth Bennett, 61, of 140 Wilson Drive, was shot and killed by troopers during the domestic incident at his home.

Bennett was pointing a long gun, later identified as a Daisy lever-action BB gun, at troopers at the time he was shot, State Police Capt. Jeffrey Raub said.

The trooper who shot Bennett was identified as Trooper Gary M. Novotny. Novotny has been a trooper for about 3 1/2 years, Raub said.

Bennett was arguing with his family and had assaulted his sister with a baseball bat, which led Bennett’s niece to call 911. At one point, Bennett took the phone and made threats to police that they would have to kill him, as well as went on nonsensical rants about warlocks and Hell’s Angels, Raub said.

When police arrived, Bennett went in and out of the house for about an hour — sometimes armed with a weapon, such as a baseball bat or a long gun — making threats at police.

A SWAT team and personnel from the Onondaga County Sheriff’s Office, New York State Police and Manlius Police were at the scene, as police tried to negotiate with him to put his weapon down.

Bennett leveled his gun toward police on several occasions. Manlius police fired non-lethal foam rounds at Bennett in an effort to immobilize him, but it was unsuccessful. Raub said Bennett told police that they would “need to shoot him in the head.”

Eventually, Bennett started approaching troopers, who were shielding themselves behind a vehicle. Despite repeated efforts, Bennett did not stop approaching, nor did he put down his weapon.

Novotny fired a single shot at Bennett with his division-issued rifle, striking him in the abdomen.

State police started life-saving measures on Bennett. Bennett was rushed to Upstate University Hospital. He died at 5:08 p.m.

While searching the 140 Wilson Drive residence early Wednesday morning, police uncovered components used for methamphetamine manufacturing inside Bennett’s upstairs apartment, Raub said. Toxicology reports to determine if and what drugs Bennett was under the influence of at the time of the incident are pending.

Bennett does have several prior misdemeanor convictions and police have been called to 140 Wilson Drive in the past, Raub said.

“Law enforcement was familiar with Mr. Bennett,” Raub said.

As with all police-involved fatal shootings in Onondaga County, District Attorney William Fitzpatrick will investigate. Fitzpatrick said he plans to bring the case before a grand jury, though grand juries are currently not meeting due to the coronavirus pandemic. If he is unable to assemble a grand jury in a timely manner, Fitzpatrick will assess the case himself.

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Soldiers ride together, support motorcycle mentorship program https://thelifeofarider.com/soldiers-ride-together-support-motorcycle-mentorship-program https://thelifeofarider.com/soldiers-ride-together-support-motorcycle-mentorship-program#respond Sun, 31 May 2020 15:11:42 +0000 https://thelifeofarider.com/?p=1299 FORT CARSON, Colo. – Motorcyclists from three battalions within 1st Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, participated in a check ride May 8, 2020. The event provided the 1st SBCT motorcycle mentorship noncommissioned officer in charge, Master Sgt. Jason Stalnaker, an electronic warfare specialist from Newark, Ohio, an opportunity to oversee the inspection of …

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FORT CARSON, Colo. – Motorcyclists from three battalions within 1st Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, participated in a check ride May 8, 2020.

The event provided the 1st SBCT motorcycle mentorship noncommissioned officer in charge, Master Sgt. Jason Stalnaker, an electronic warfare specialist from Newark, Ohio, an opportunity to oversee the inspection of the motorcyclists’ required documentation needed to safely and legally operate their motorcycles.

The Motorcycle Mentorship Program (MMP) is designed to support unit motorcycle safety efforts and foster an environment that emphasizes skilled and disciplined riding, according to the U.S. Army Combat Readiness Center.

“We check for registration, insurance, and motorcycle foundation cards to include the basic rider course I, basic rider course II and the military sportbike rider course,” said Stalnaker.

The check ride also served as an opportunity for Soldiers to build camaraderie with fellow motorcyclists and pair riders together to foster safe motorcycle riding practices.

One of the main ways the MMP does this is by hosting group rides and rallies, which is an aspect of the program Stalnaker finds valuable.

“I like getting everybody together and having riders know that there is a program out there that they can be a part of and share knowledge with each other,” said Stalnaker.

Despite the ongoing pandemic, social distancing did not stand in the way of the motorcycle mentorship program’s check ride.

“At a time like this, there’s no better way to social distance than being on a motorcycle,” said Stalnaker.

Stalnaker was not the only mentor present on the day of the check ride.

The 2nd Battalion, 12th Field Artillery Regiment, 1st SBCT was one of the three battalions that participated in the day’s check ride. The battalion’s motorcycle mentor, Sgt. 1st Class Paul Atchison, a field artillery firefinder radar operator with Headquarters and Headquarters Battery, 2nd Bn., 12th FA Regt. , came out to oversee his unit’s riders prior to the check ride.

“[The motorcycle mentorship program] reiterates safety, and it gets Soldiers out to get riding since they may not have been able to do so during the winter,” said Atchison.

Atchison also discussed a detailed checklist which riders use prior to heading out on unit check rides called the T-CLOCS inspection, which ensures all motorcycles are inspected to the same standard.

“We make sure the bikes are running correctly, and [Soldiers] have the right safety gear,” said Atchison.

Mentors bring unique background and often decades of experience to these check rides.

Sgt. 1st Class Denver Stubbe, a cannon crewmember with Battery C., 2nd Bn., 12th FA Reg., 1st SBCT, said he first started riding motorcycles and dirt bikes under the mentorship of his parents when he was six years old and enjoys sharing experiences with his fellow riders.

“What I like about [these mentorship] rides is they bring all the other riders together – a little something outside of the work realm,” said Stubbe.

Stubbe also acknowledged it is never too late to increase your skills as a rider regardless of your experience level.

“Even though I’ve been riding for so long, you can develop skills all the time and become a better rider overall,” said Stubbe.

New and experienced riders can find purpose from the program according to Stalnaker, who believes check rides are much more than just joy rides during a duty day.

“For [new Soldiers] to be with other riders is teaching them new lessons that they might not know,” said Stalnaker.

This check ride is the first in a series of three motorcycle mentorship check rides throughout the month of May with the goal of ensuring all motorcycle riders across 1st SBCT participate in a ride.

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Plans continue for 80th Sturgis Rally amid COVID-19 pandemic https://thelifeofarider.com/plans-continue-for-80th-sturgis-rally-amid-covid-19-pandemic https://thelifeofarider.com/plans-continue-for-80th-sturgis-rally-amid-covid-19-pandemic#respond Sun, 31 May 2020 15:10:06 +0000 https://thelifeofarider.com/?p=1296 And what about this summer’s Sturgis Rally? In a video posted on Facebook, Sturgis Mayor Mark Carstensen said, at this point, the rally is still being planned for and they’re working on it every day. He says they’re looking forward to hosting it if the situation allows. Governor Kristi Noem says, “I think to proactively …

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And what about this summer’s Sturgis Rally?

In a video posted on Facebook, Sturgis Mayor Mark Carstensen said, at this point, the rally is still being planned for and they’re working on it every day.

He says they’re looking forward to hosting it if the situation allows.

Governor Kristi Noem says, “I think to proactively plan for the rally is fine, knowing that we may have to adjust it or address it in the coming days. But literally every day things are changing, our modeling is changing. Even if we get therapeutics, if we get the ability to stop this virus as far as spreading, we may be in a different situation by the time we get to July. Obviously the rally is held later in August and we’ll continue to have conversations with the local community.”

Carstensen says they’ll know something more definitive by early to mid-June

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Man Claims there were people in a biker gang trying to kill him because he talked to police https://thelifeofarider.com/man-claims-there-were-people-in-a-biker-gang-trying-to-kill-him-because-he-talked-to-police https://thelifeofarider.com/man-claims-there-were-people-in-a-biker-gang-trying-to-kill-him-because-he-talked-to-police#respond Sun, 10 May 2020 10:04:45 +0000 https://thelifeofarider.com/?p=1210 BELLEVUE — A Sandusky man was given a trespassing notice after allegedly causing a disturbance a at a West Main Street gas station. According to police reports, Micah Risner, 32, placed a 9-1-1 call advising he needed officers ASAP, because he was in danger inside the business. The reports state Risner initially told officers “there …

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BELLEVUE — A Sandusky man was given a trespassing notice after allegedly causing a disturbance a at a West Main Street gas station.

According to police reports, Micah Risner, 32, placed a 9-1-1 call advising he needed officers ASAP, because he was in danger inside the business.

The reports state Risner initially told officers “there were people in a biker gang trying to kill him because he talked to police.” He reportedly told the police the store camera was not facing in the right direction to capture footage of the “bikers.”

After police arrive and were able to get Risner to step outside the business, police say Risner told them he made up the story about the biker gang. He told them it was actually a “group of people in lift trucks trying to kill him.”

Risner reportedly admitted to using methamphetamine “about a week ago” and told police he hadn’t slept in three or four days.

The report states Risner agreed to be checked out by North Central EMS telling the officer “he was not crazy or going to kill himself.” Micah was then treated by NCEMS, but refused to be transported to the Bellevue Hospital..

The business manager reportedly then told police she wanted Risner banned “from the gas station due to his behavior.”

Police say Risner told them he is homeless and asked to be dropped off at a friend’s house. He was unable to make contact with anyone and a police officer told him he would have to leave the property, which he did.

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Leader of Bronx biker gang shot dead Saturday in apparent hit https://thelifeofarider.com/leader-of-bronx-biker-gang-shot-dead-saturday-in-apparent-hit https://thelifeofarider.com/leader-of-bronx-biker-gang-shot-dead-saturday-in-apparent-hit#respond Mon, 04 May 2020 21:40:13 +0000 https://thelifeofarider.com/?p=1187 The scene of a shooting in the Bronx that claimed the life of 51-year-old Francisco Rosado. The leader of a Bronx motorcycle gang was shot dead Saturday in what is believed to be a targeted hit, sources said. Francisco Rosado, 51, who heads the Bronx chapter of the Pagan’s Motorcycle Club, was gunned down by …

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The scene of a shooting in the Bronx that claimed the life of 51-year-old Francisco Rosado.

The leader of a Bronx motorcycle gang was shot dead Saturday in what is believed to be a targeted hit, sources said.

Francisco Rosado, 51, who heads the Bronx chapter of the Pagan’s Motorcycle Club, was gunned down by two masked men on Holland Avenue near Mace Avenue in Allerton at about 3:20 p.m., according to law enforcement sources.

The suspects fled the scene in a blue Jeep Cherokee with stolen license plates, sources said.

Rosado was struck in the head and chest and declared dead at the scene, police said.

As of Sunday night, no arrests have been made in the deadly shooting.

The Pagans operate all along the East Coast with over 1,000 members. The biker gang has a hand in drugs, tattoo parlors, strip clubs and junkyards.

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Rich bikies under investigation: taxman eyes social media show-offs https://thelifeofarider.com/rich-bikies-under-investigation-taxman-eyes-social-media-show-offs https://thelifeofarider.com/rich-bikies-under-investigation-taxman-eyes-social-media-show-offs#respond Thu, 23 Apr 2020 09:17:41 +0000 https://thelifeofarider.com/?p=1096 BIKIE bosses are to face unprecedented scrutiny from the taxman over their unexplained wealth. Several prosecutions connected to the financial affairs of high-profile bikie figures — including Comanchero MC national president Mick Murray — are currently before the courts. The Australian Federal Police and the Australian Taxation Office are working together in several investigations under …

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BIKIE bosses are to face unprecedented scrutiny from the taxman over their unexplained wealth.

Several prosecutions connected to the financial affairs of high-profile bikie figures — including Comanchero MC national president Mick Murray — are currently before the courts.

The Australian Federal Police and the Australian Taxation Office are working together in several investigations under the Serious Financial Crime Taskforce, to disrupt “organised crime”.

Key targets in Melbourne are being investigated for their unexplained wealth.

Mongols bikie Toby Mitchell is one outlaw bikie whose lifestyle has raised eyebrows in recent months.

His social media feed gives every indication he is living the high life.

It shows his penthousestyle high-rise pad in Melbourne’s CBD as well as high-priced cars and motorcycles.

It is unclear which of these he owns, but one of them is a Ford Mustang with the number plate EN4SER.

Luxury holidays and outings at major sporting events are also documented by the former Bandidos strongman.

City of Ink tattoo parlour operator and close friend Jake King has publicly stated Mitchell has no stake in the business.

The ATO has in the past used individuals’ assets as evidence of income.

A tax bill would then be prepared based on an assessment of those assets.

Other outlaw motorcycle club figures have in the past been levied with heavy bills.

Comanchero boss Murray is currently dealing with a multimillion-dollar bill.

A wealthy Russian woman linked to the Comanchero MC was also given a $34 million bill based on her accumulation of a big property portfolio.

The AFP declined to comment on which individuals were currently under investigation.

“The ATO has a presence in AFP specialised organised crime teams, including the National Anti-Gangs Squad and Criminal Assets Confiscation Taskforce,” an AFP spokeswoman said

“It would be inappropriate for the AFP to comment on any current or active investigations at this time.”

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Sturgis Motorcycle Rally still on, for now https://thelifeofarider.com/sturgis-motorcycle-rally-still-on-for-now https://thelifeofarider.com/sturgis-motorcycle-rally-still-on-for-now#respond Fri, 17 Apr 2020 17:51:26 +0000 https://thelifeofarider.com/?p=1065 STURGIS – The official start of the 80th Sturgis Motorcycle Rally is 114 days away. But no one, not even Sturgis city officials, know if the annual event, that traditionally draws upwards of a half million motorcycle enthusiasts, will happen this year because of the COVID-19 pandemic. Those interested in knowing the status of this …

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STURGIS – The official start of the 80th Sturgis Motorcycle Rally is 114 days away.

But no one, not even Sturgis city officials, know if the annual event, that traditionally draws upwards of a half million motorcycle enthusiasts, will happen this year because of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Those interested in knowing the status of this year’s Rally have been

communicating in various ways – phone, email, social media messaging – with city staff, said Sturgis Mayor Mark Carstensen.

“Some have even said that it doesn’t matter what the city decides, they are still planning to come,” Carstensen said.

But the city isn’t prepared to make a decision just yet.

“I think a bigger discussion, and I don’t necessarily think now is the time, is that if we are going to cancel the rally, we are going to have to cancel all of the events in the summer which is a pretty big situation,” the mayor said. “Before that discussion happens, it makes sense to continue on the path of seeing how this works out over time.”

Rod Woodruff, owner of the Buffalo Chip Campground, said his business also has been fielding many calls about the status of this year’s 80th Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.

He said the safety of people is the primary consideration.

“How are you going to do social distancing on Main Street? It’s not possible,” Woodruff said.

People will need to make up their own mind whether or not they come to Sturgis for the Rally, he said.

“Just because somebody says we’re opening the country back up for business doesn’t mean that all of a sudden all these people are going to think I should pack up my motorcycle and drive a thousand miles to go to a crowd,” Woodruff said.

Carstensen said it is pertinent to give a definite schedule of how and when the city will come to a decision about hosting or calling off the rally.

“I also think it is pertinent to say the 80th Sturgis Motorcycle Rally is still being planned for and we hope that it still is able to go on,” he said.

At its city council meeting on April 6, Sturgis City Councilman Ron Waterland said he would like to have the city staff develop a decision matrix with respect to COVID data that gives the city a schedule of when they could make a decision about hosting the Rally.

“I’ve had people asking me if we are going to have the rally or not have the Rally. I’d like some sort of a decision matrix developed over the next month or so that gives us a schedule as to when we need to make decisions relative to what the COVID data is showing us,” he said.

Waterland said that would give the city time to either notify people that the Rally is going to be postponed or that the rally is going to go on. Carstensen said he agreed that such a plan should be considered.

But longtime Sturgis resident and former Sturgis Brown High School Principal Rich Deaver said common sense dictates that the event should be postponed for a year.

“If we have even a semblance of a Rally crowd, those of us that live here will be exposed to the threat of being revisited by the COVID-19 virus,” he said. “As a world-wide event, we may see people from virtually every state and country. We will have no idea who is still capable of infecting others.”

Deaver said he realizes what an economic engine the Rally is for Sturgis and much of the Black Hills area, but questions why any thoughtful person would even consider exposing people to such a devastating threat.

“I think I speak for the council when I say that we will put the safety of the citizens first,” Sturgis City Councilwoman Rhea Crane said last week. “I think there is a lot of unrest out there that we are being greedy. I don’t think that is the case. We are just waiting for it all to play out.”

At a news conference earlier this month, Gov. Kristi Noem said there hasn’t been a plan to cancel the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally yet.

“Knowing that we would anticipate peaking in mid-June, we could end up curving down,” Noem said. “We’ll still have infection rates in the state (by) August, but dealing with those events as they come up.”

Woodruff said the Buffalo Chip Campground has a no-refund policy, so they have told Rallygoers that if there is not a Rally this year, they will roll over their pass for the 80th Rally in 2021.

“That’s a real possibility,” he said.

Woodruff also added that none of the bands scheduled to play at this year’s Rally at the Buffalo Chip have cancelled.

“We’re going to move on until it becomes apparent that that is not the thing to do, but we’re prepared for a complete and regular event like we always do,” he said. “We’re keeping our staff on. Everybody is working and we’re going to be here for whatever size crowd shows up.”

Sturgis City Council President Dave Martinson said there are a lot of players in determining what happens with this year’s Rally.

“I would think that we would have some feedback not just from the citizens of Sturgis, as we should and we welcome that, but also a lot of communication from various people throughout the entire state, state tourism and the governor’s office,” he said.

Whatever is arrived at, there has to be a consensus among a number of people whether the rally does or does not happen, Martinson said.

“At the same time, I think it will be done in a timely fashion, and I would think that everyone involved in this decision-making process will put the health of the people of Sturgis and the entire state of South Dakota as the foremost thing in our minds,” he said.

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